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Hacking a Dualshock PSOne pad, good
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25, 2003, 05:28:55 AM » |
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TAKE NOTE DUDES W/ PLAYSTATION HACKS. This is
very good 411!!!!!
Playstation gamepad
hacks are pretty easy since they have a common
ground.
I suggest the latest Dualshock PSOne
by Sony (the white one, series H) You can
desolder the digital boards ribbon cable and
then solder your 16 wires (very tight solder
job, for advanced dudes only!) to where the
ribbon cable was. You must wire up a mode button
and then you have a stick that can even work for
USB, Dreamcast, Gamecube & Xbox with the
appropriate adaptors. Email me for where to buy
those adaptors.
This is a very straight
forward hack, if you have soldering
skillz...
Wiring code (top of ribbon,
away from the LED)
1 mode
change
2 Joy left
3
Joy down
4 Joy
right
5 Joy up
6
Start
7 Select
8
L2
9 R2
10
L1
11 R1
12 Tri
button
13 O button
14 X
button
15 Sqr button
16
Ground
Can't hang? Paypal me $40 and I'll
ship you one all wired up and ready to go. Info
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Re:Hacking a Dualshock PSOne pad, good
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on: May 25, 2003, 05:50:14 AM » |
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good suggestion on the ribbon, but why waste
money on a new controller, if you have 3rd party
ones you don't use laying around? you
don't need the analog sticks or dual shock
anyway. Unless you want to get an analog
stick or 49 way stick, but that gets expensive
and is too much work. You can get adapters
at lik-sang.com and at another I can't remember
atm, I'll post the link when I remember unless
it's against rules to post sites that sell stuff
like mod chips. |
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Re:Hacking a Dualshock PSOne pad, good
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on: May 25, 2003, 06:30:32 AM » |
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http://www.play-asia.com/
Good
convertors there, beware with PS2> GC and
maybe even PS2>Xbox convertors. Some will
only work if there are analog sticks present,
and when using a Dpad hack most will leave those
sticks out. Worth thinking about I believe.
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Re:Hacking a Dualshock PSOne pad, good
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on: May 25, 2003, 07:01:22 AM » |
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http://www.success-hk.com/pp/success.asp
ah,
found it, cool store
ufo psx->gc
converter $2.99
blaze psx->pc converter
$10, looks exactly like the boom I have, I even
use the drivers from these guys
http://www.lik-sang.com/default.php
HAHA,
Lik-Sang and Play-Asia have most the same stuff,
same prices too
Magic Box 3in1 (PS1/2,
DC, Saturn) xbox converter $24.90, kind
expensive
Super Joybox 10/11 2/4 xbox
controllers->PC $16.90/$19.90
Boom
psx->pc $14.90, one I have, works great
as long as you're using updated drivers and your
games support it, had to patch a couple to get
this thing to work with the rumble.
Cube
Joybox psx->gc, $9.90
GC 2in1
psx,ps/2(KB)->gc converter, $19.90, guess
this is for those Animal Crossing freaks,
lol
Skillz Cube gc->pc, $18.90
IMO
a lot of those are overpriced, plus there's
shipping from HK from any place, I might have to
order a couple of those $2.99 ones, need to find
a reasonably priced psx->xbox one now
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Re:Hacking a Dualshock PSOne pad, good
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on: May 25, 2003, 09:37:06 AM » |
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Duh, Boom Dreambox Converter psx->xbox,
$14.90, need one of those, I know boom works
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Re:Hacking a Dualshock PSOne pad, good
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on: May 28, 2003, 09:41:10 AM » |
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So We got how many buttons avaibable for
mame..
Humm.. 10 buttons rigth in each
pad rigth?
Not couting with directional
and "mode" buttons.
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Re:Hacking a Dualshock PSOne pad, good
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on: May 28, 2003, 01:28:59 PM » |
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Based on what ive read the PS2 dualshock is
probably the best pad to hack but not the
easiest so its good that we gather this info
here on the board. You get the most buttons for
your hack with PSX pads but it needs to be a
dualshock since some ps2 games might not
identify your controller if analog mode isnt
present. And on top of that if you go the easily
hackable third party way the adapters might give
you problems. So which versions of dualshocks
have that solderable pcb?
I have only one
that has it and its this old grey PSX Dualshock
(G-serie) one. So do these new white PSOne
Dualshocks also have pcbs? Since the newest
A-models have that unsolderable plastic but with
this info of yours you might hack them aswell
but only if youre really good since theyre less
than 1 mm apart. |
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Re:Hacking a Dualshock PSOne pad, good
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on: May 28, 2003, 01:33:39 PM » |
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i dont intend to connect the ps2.
I
prefer connect to PC and DC. I think this ones
dont need analog mode on.
The old psx
pad is good enough i think.
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Re:Hacking a Dualshock PSOne pad, good
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« Reply #8
on: May 28, 2003, 04:59:37 PM » |
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The white dualshocks are series H and they have
two boards. The main board has the analog sticks
and has a ribbon cable to the digital buttons.
From there you can hack into just the ribbon
cable. Follow the wire code.... this will give
you a stick that has basically unused R3, L3 and
analog sticks but it'll be recognized by the
adaptors for creating a multi-console
stick.
You'll get double row of 4 buttons
and two function buttons. 10 total. Drill to
your own personal pattern and enjoy.
PS2
Dualshock2 is NOT the best to hack. This one
is... because of the ribbon cable, it makes it
easier to hack into.
Cleric: yes, if you
don't want to use this for Xbox and GC then you
can go w/ a digital pad only. But if you ask
me... why not build in the forward
compatibility?
Note: DC hack dudes, R2,
L2 and Select are not used. You should but L1
right below R1 so that you have a Capcom 6 going
on. I have a toggle switch that swaps the two
positions and back and forth.
Another
note: I always prefer 1st part because with all
of the extra work, it's just nicer to see "Sony"
right on the plug.
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Re:Hacking a Dualshock PSOne pad, good
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on: May 28, 2003, 07:37:33 PM » |
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Maybe you can answer a question for me.
I
know the dualshock2 pads are a swine to hack,
but what about 3rd party ps2 controllers? Is the
analog button annoyance still there and are the
contacts easier than the coated official pad
ones?
Also, does anyone know if using a
PS2 > GC adapter, does Z (GC) get mapped to
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on: May 29, 2003, 04:13:18 AM » |
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I'm sure that Z is something but I've not looked
into it. I have one here but it's sort of a
hassle to get it all and figured out. Kind of
busy...
You don't need analog buttons so
why start with a PS2 Dualshock2???? at $34 a
piece, what a waste... just use a
Dualshock at $20. I just gave you the wire code
so the Dualshock2 gives you nothing more.... I'm
sure you can use a 3rd party but why? It gives
you no more funtionality for a stick.
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on: May 29, 2003, 01:21:40 PM » |
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The reason I asked is because a cheap 3rd party
dualshock 2 compatible is much easier to come by
over here (UK) than the original Dualshocks. It
would also end up being cheaper in all
likelihood. It was just a question.
What
are 3rd party dualshock compatibles like for
hacking in general, I may be able to pick up a
couple of those. |
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on: May 29, 2003, 02:39:39 PM » |
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I'm not sure, it's outside of my philosophy so
go figure. I always prefer original stuff even
though it's so much harder to hack. Maybe that's
where I kind of learned more stuff. I did the
SNES pads back in 91 for SF2 when I was young...
I hand scrapped the contacts with a knife....
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on: May 30, 2003, 12:48:58 AM » |
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You don't need analog buttons so
why start with a PS2 Dualshock2???? at $34 a
piece, what a waste... just use a
Dualshock at
$20.
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Shock 2's are $24.99 new (at least around where
I live). Also I don't think the PSOne DS
is recognized correctly as an analog controller
by all PS2 games. The PS1 DS also doesn't
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« Reply #14
on: May 30, 2003, 04:32:11 PM » |
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All Sony dual shock controllers should work on
all PS2 games. They sell for $20 new here in
California. R3 and L3 are in the same location,
analog sticks down. The only difference with the
Dualshock 2 is that all dualshock 2 game buttons
are analog, accept for R3 and L3.
I used
to work at Sony, trust me. Dualshock 1
controllers are tested TRC before the game is
approved. |
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« Reply #15
on: May 30, 2003, 07:25:28 PM » |
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You must wire up a mode button
and then you have a stick that can even work for
USB, Dreamcast, Gamecube & Xbox with the
appropriate adaptors.
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this mode button is the button that
activates/deactivate the analog sticks?
And why would we need to use this when using the
USB (or other) converters?
And thanks for
the response on the PS1 DS sticks. I was
about to hack one of my PS2 DS2 sticks, and may
now just go out and buy a used PS1 DS stick.
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on: May 31, 2003, 06:29:18 AM » |
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it's needed in the sense that you may want to
turn off the analog mode so that it's not
looking for something that's not there. You can
force it to digital mode if the game supports
it. It really is for compatibility issues that
might arise.
NP, got to support this
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on: May 31, 2003, 11:55:20 PM » |
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Ok, I bought a used PSX DS H-series for
$15. I don't see how this is any easier
than a PS2 DS2. In fact, the latest PS2
DS2's may even have easier soldering
points! I now have all 3, original PS2
DS2, the newest PS2 DS2, and the PSX DS.
Both the PSX DS and PS2 DS2 use the same style
connector on the PCB (the PSX has the ribbon
cable soldered onto it, while the PS2 DS2 has
the ribbon cable plugging into a female
connector. Both of these require the same
amount of skill soldering wise. But, the
latest PS2 DS2, has a differently arranged
interface. Its still the same small leads,
but they are spaced in a staggared design, so it
would actually be eaiser to solder to (each
solder point has about twice as much room as the
other models).
About the only advantage I
see with the PSX DS is $5-10 cheaper (depending
upon if you can get it used). This is just
my assesment.
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on: June 01, 2003, 05:44:44 AM »
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There is a Digital series H, I believe that you
can solder straight to the board with out
exposing copper because there are neatly exposed
points already.
I recomend the PSOne
"white" series H because you can just hack into
the ribbon cable for a pretty neat wire job.
It's also faster and neater than reading the PCB
board to figure out everything, since I gave out
the wire code.
You can find them used or
new for $20 so that's a benefit. It's more
economical than a Sony PS2 pad unless you just
need to have the black cable. PS2 pads don't
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I recomend the PSOne "white"
series H because you can just hack into the
ribbon cable for a pretty neat wire job.
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believe we are talking about the same
thing. I believe any H-series, regardless
of color has the same style connection and
PCBs).
Can you post a picture of
your hack so I can see what this white h series
looks like inside, and how fine a solder job is
required? Thanks!  |
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on: June 01, 2003, 06:16:34 PM »
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I have one doubt about this..
How u
configure the buttons from example
ONE
BUTTON MUST
"ESCAPE TO MENU
FRONT-END"
Other
"PLayer Start
1"
"Credits"
bla
bla..
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on: June 02, 2003, 05:18:14 AM »
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You should learn to write Mame CTRLR.ini
files
taken from my
default.ini
START1
"KEYCODE_1 | J1_Button_11"
START2
"KEYCODE_2 |
J2_Button_11"
START3
"KEYCODE_3 | J3_Button_11"
START4
"KEYCODE_4 | J4_Button_11"
COIN1
"KEYCODE_5 | J1_Button_8"
COIN2
"KEYCODE_6 | J2_Button_8"
COIN3
"KEYCODE_7 | J3_Button_8"
COIN4
"KEYCODE_8 | J4_Button_8"
where my
PSX to USB has select as a direct input "button
9" and start as "button 12"
Taken from
the STD.ini is:
UI_CANCEL
"KEYCODE_ESC"
Just put a different
joystick button on there for the UI_CANCEL line.
If you don't get this, either I can't
communicate well or you're beyond my help.
=)
You can also read up on the MAME
documentation.
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